Vfacts march

Rob 351 · 07-04-2017, 07:49 AM

Thank god for the Ranger!

Toyota - 19,652 (up 4.3 percent YTD)
Mazda - 10,472 (steady)
Hyundai - 8700 (down 8.2 percent)
Mitsubishi - 7583 (up 1.1 percent)
Holden - 7211 (down 10.7 percent)
Ford - 6852 (down 1.1 percent)
Nissan - 5620 (down 13.3 percent)
Volkswagen - 5122 (down 5.8 percent)
Subaru - 5006 (up 8.4 percent)
Kia - 4684 (up 34.8 percent)
Top 10 Selling Models - March 2017

Toyota HiLux - 4245 (10,333 sales YTD)
Ford Ranger - 3845 (9398)
Toyota Corolla - 3574 (9909)
Mazda3 - 3039 (9655)
Mitsubishi Triton - 2670 (5815)
Hyundai i30 - 2383 (6404)
Toyota Camry - 2336 (4389)
Hyundai Tucson - 2156 (5430)
Mazda CX-5 - 2116 (5973)
Holden Commodore - 2081 (5607)

Ranger doing well in the 4x4 market.

The Blue Oval shifted 2497 Ranger 4x4s in February 2017 to put it on top of the monthly 4x4 sales charts.
The Ranger held a 21.9 per cent share of the overall PU/CC 4x4 market, ahead of the Toyota Hilux (20.0 per cent).
With back-to-back monthly wins, the Ford Ranger has sold 374 more 4x4 vehicles than the second-placed Toyota Hilux so far in 2017.
In the overall market, Light Commercial Vehicles held an 18.5 per cent share of total industry sales in February. When compared to February last year, the sale of LCVs dropped by 5.6 per cent, though this can be attributed to unusually strong February 2016 sales.
“February 2016 included one extra selling day and saw a lot of activity in the market. This resulted in a 6.7 per cent surge over February 2015,” said the chief executive of the FCAI, Mr Tony Weber.
February 2017 was also a milestone month for SUVs, as they (39.9 per cent) overtook passenger cars (39.0 per cent) in total monthly sales.
“The steady, demonstrable shift in consumer preference, which has been occurring in the past few years, has culminated in this February outcome,” Mr Weber said.
“Of course, this one monthly outcome doesn’t signal a landslide but clearly Australian buyers are attracted by the features and capabilities of new generation SUVs, and how these types of vehicles suit their needs and lifestyles.”
The Toyota Corolla was Australia’s best-selling vehicle in February (3392 sales). It was followed by the Toyota Hilux 4x2/4x4 (3386), Mazda3 (3143), Ford Ranger 4x2/4x4 (2931) and Hyundai i30 (2003).
ford-ranger-2

4X4
FEB 17
JAN 17
YTD
1
Ford Ranger
2497
2221
4718
2
Toyota Hilux
2380
1964
4344
3
Mitsubishi Triton
1751
974
2725
4
Toyota Prado
1320
1063
2383
5
Holden Colorado
1098
1333
2431
6
Toyota LandCruiser Wagon
944
713
1657
7
Nissan Navara
931
802
1733
8
Volkswagen Amarok
756
577
1333
9
Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
752
431
1183
10
Mazda BT-50
747
709

Vesper Martini · 07-04-2017, 08:55 AM

Despite only having the Ranger doing well, its still doing better than Holden's best the Commodore.
I honestly believe when it comes to the rest of the mix Ford have it over Holden, so surely there will be a change in positions in the coming months currently the gap is about 400 cars.
They may already have done it if there was a Territory replacement in place, apparently we need to wait till 2018, till then Craptiva remains unopposed.

csv8 · 07-04-2017, 09:34 AM

Bevsta007..My "Craptiva" has done 16,000kms in 11 months, 2,800kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat, hasn't missed a beat...You cannt compare the Series 1 to the Series 3. And Arcadia/Equinox are coming later this year...Ford should get Edge here, sooner..for some reason, known only to Ford, latest models take years to get here. Okay, guys rip into me!!!!!!

MAGPIE · 07-04-2017, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Bevsta007..My "Craptiva" has done 16,000kms in 11 months, 2,800kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat, hasn't missed a beat...You cannt compare the Series 1 to the Series 3. And Arcadia/Equinox are coming later this year...Ford should get Edge here, sooner..for some reason, known only to Ford, latest models take years to get here. Okay, guys rip into me!!!!!!

16k in 11 months is hardly high km's so what is your point

csv8 · 07-04-2017, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MAGPIE

16k in 11 months is hardly high km's so what is your point

My point ? the Captiva is supposed to be a pile of doggy do do, from day 1. Its not, Series 1 had a few problems. There are two at work with 150,000kms+ on the clock, no issues...seen how many are on the road??? compared to Kuga!!!
But its okay for Fiesta/Focus to have a faulty auto box, Kuga to catch fire, ZF to milkshake!!!!.

MAGPIE · 07-04-2017, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

My point ? the Captiva is supposed to be a pile of doggy do do, from day 1. Its not, Series 1 had a few problems. There are two at work with 150,000kms+ on the clock, no issues...seen how many are on the road??? compared to Kuga!!!
But its okay for Fiesta/Focus to have a faulty auto box, Kuga to catch fire, ZF to milkshake!!!!.

I know someone with a Captiva that crapped the gearbox, they hate it.

Yep I see heaps of Kuga's, never seen one on fire either

Smoke Pursuit · 07-04-2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Bevsta007..My "Craptiva" has done 16,000kms in 11 months, 2,800kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat, hasn't missed a beat...You cannt compare the Series 1 to the Series 3. And Arcadia/Equinox are coming later this year...Ford should get Edge here, sooner..for some reason, known only to Ford, latest models take years to get here. Okay, guys rip into me!!!!!!

Just wait till it gets some age about it.

Its still the same 2006 car too which is disappointing.

Plenty of happy Territory owners out there with over 200,000 kms now...

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 07-04-2017, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Bevsta007..My "Craptiva" has done 16,000kms in 11 months, 2,800kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat, hasn't missed a beat...You cannt compare the Series 1 to the Series 3. And Arcadia/Equinox are coming later this year...Ford should get Edge here, sooner..for some reason, known only to Ford, latest models take years to get here. Okay, guys rip into me!!!!!!

We all know by now that you love your Craptiva, csv8, so there's no need to remind us every time someone uses the term Craptiva or every time the vfacts figures come up, or every time Holden is rubbished, or......

If you want to share the love you have for a Holden product, I suggest there might be more suitable forums than the Australian Ford Forums to do that on.

Vesper Martini · 07-04-2017, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Bevsta007..My "Craptiva" has done 16,000kms in 11 months, 2,800kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat, hasn't missed a beat...You cannt compare the Series 1 to the Series 3. And Arcadia/Equinox are coming later this year...Ford should get Edge here, sooner..for some reason, known only to Ford, latest models take years to get here. Okay, guys rip into me!!!!!!

Ok I admit I might have dangled a Carrot for you there.. & I'm sure the series 3 is much better, the factory no longer has Daewoo on the side.

My Point was more that if the Edge were here I'm sure it would be killing it in comparison.

Bossxr8 · 07-04-2017, 02:38 PM

My girlfriends is less than 2 years old and already has had window switches replaced, a new alternator and new drive belt. They are garbage. csv8's is probably the only one ever built that has made it to the first service without having warranty work.

**GasoLane** · 07-04-2017, 02:50 PM

Ten posts and nine of them are about a car that isn't even mentioned in the opening post!!

Stay on topic please.

CyberWasp · 07-04-2017, 07:27 PM

What is Ford missing to beat Hilux with the 4x2 Ranger?

bigwil · 07-04-2017, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

What is Ford missing to beat Hilux with the 4x2 Ranger?

Buyers

vztrt · 07-04-2017, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

What is Ford missing to beat Hilux with the 4x2 Ranger?

Does it matter for the fleet queens? I guess the dealers are happy plenty of servicing work.

**Giant Cranium** · 07-04-2017, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

What is Ford missing to beat Hilux with the 4x2 Ranger?

An auto low rider. Workmate autos are the tradie standard

naddis01 · 08-04-2017, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

What is Ford missing to beat Hilux with the 4x2 Ranger?

A cheap entry price.

**Fordman1** · 08-04-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bigwil

Cheap Buyers

Corrected

Bossxr8 · 08-04-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

What is Ford missing to beat Hilux with the 4x2 Ranger?

Ford can't compete at the very bottom end of 4x2's. Toyota sell a stack of bargain basement Workmates and vinyl floored 4x2's, and they have a petrol engine option which Ford dropped due to small uptake. I think the cheapest Hilux is thousands cheaper than the cheapest Ranger.

In saying that it's not even a market Ford would really want to compete in cause profits are tiny. They prefer to sell high profit Wildtraks and XLT's, which they do, hence why they outsell Hilux in 4X4.

4stanger · 08-04-2017, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Ford can't compete at the very bottom end of 4x2's. Toyota sell a stack of bargain basement Workmates and vinyl floored 4x2's, and they have a petrol engine option which Ford dropped due to small uptake. I think the cheapest Hilux is thousands cheaper than the cheapest Ranger.

In saying that it's not even a market Ford would really want to compete in cause profits are tiny. They prefer to sell high profit Wildtraks and XLT's, which they do, hence why they outsell Hilux in 4X4.

With the hilux workmates, dealers get something as well, ongoing servicing, parts and accessories should the purchaser chooses to upgrade from the base alloy tray, add a bull bar etc. a few businesses also purchase these through lease companies. Every customer has different tastes on some of these accessories to suit their requirements. Rental companies buy heaps of workmates also.
So not only does toyota have a piece of profit, some others do as well.
If Ford are choosing not to compete in this segment, I am not sure why, every little bit of profit helps

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**russellw** · 09-04-2017, 08:29 AM

The first set of graphical stats has been uploaded into the Tech portal now.

As it is the end of the first quarter, the Segment analysis and Supplementary stats will be available soon.

Regards
Russ

**buggerlugs** · 09-04-2017, 08:33 AM

Just took the dogs for a walk. Over at our local Hall a bunch of locals have gone on a bus trip for the weekend. I counted 28 cars. 25 Jap, 1 Holden, 1 Ford and 1 Mercedes. Out of the 25 jap 17 were SUV..............
Our choice of cars has changed a lot in 20 years
( I think that deserves a spreadsheet Russ !! )

**russellw** · 09-04-2017, 10:54 AM

The Supplementary Stats for the March quarter have been uploaded now.

Cheers
Russ

malazn mafia · 09-04-2017, 11:20 AM

Shocking that whitegoods on wheels Toy Motor Co as a whole is outselling Fraud Australia 3 to 1. Without Ranger's success Ford might as well pack up and go back to Detroit. Rentals and fleets must be the ones propping up Mitsubishi and Hyundai? Can't seem to rent an entry level car that isn't a Hyundai or Mitsubishi these days. Or are VFacts private buyers only?

**russellw** · 09-04-2017, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

( I think that deserves a spreadsheet Russ !! )

Where do you think all the monthly graphical stats come from?

Cheers
Russ

**russellw** · 09-04-2017, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Shocking that whitegoods on wheels Toy Motor Co as a whole is outselling Fraud Australia 3 to 1. Without Ranger's success Ford might as well pack up and go back to Detroit. Rentals and fleets must be the ones propping up Mitsubishi and Hyundai? Can't seem to rent an entry level car that isn't a Hyundai or Mitsubishi these days. Or are VFacts private buyers only?

No they include private buyers. If you look at the supplementary stats we do quarterly, you'll see that most of the growth has been in the private buyer segment a cross almost all of the major sectors.

Cheers
Russ

**russellw** · 09-04-2017, 02:17 PM

The Segment Analysis for Q1 is also uploaded now.

Cheers
Russ

**Fordman1** · 09-04-2017, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Shocking that whitegoods on wheels Toy Motor Co as a whole is outselling Fraud Australia 3 to 1. Without Ranger's success Ford might as well pack up and go back to Detroit. Rentals and fleets must be the ones propping up Mitsubishi and Hyundai? Can't seem to rent an entry level car that isn't a Hyundai or Mitsubishi these days. Or are VFacts private buyers only?

VFacts is for all buyers not just Private buyers.

csv8 · 10-04-2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

A cheap entry price.

"There aren't many two-wheel drive rivals in this class.*Isuzu's MU-X is the closest, and there's an updated model*being released later this month.

However, the Everest has always been the most expensive in this class, and while this entry-level model brings it*closer to the competition you can still get a range-topping Pajero Sport or Trailblazer for less." From Mark Short Drive,,,
http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-revi...omePageReview2