Aurion Delivers Best-in-class Power And Economy

[QualityCounts]

http://www.pressroom.com.au/newpress...on=PRR&pr=1970

[RavenLS1]

i bet it wont pull the same torque number of the falcon.

[Martyvan]

Originally Posted by QualityCounts

http://www.pressroom.com.au/newpress...on=PRR&pr=1970

Best in Class? Means its better than 380, Accord (Yankee) and Camry? Front Wheel Drive Family Sedan? Is that which class we are talking about?

[deesun]

What class? The under 4ltr class? Falcon BF has already surpassed that fuel figure according to a current drive on these forums. And as above it doesn't give a torque figure.

[Dezza]

Just wondering how does the fuel economy of the Aurion compare with the Camry? Because the Camry is a bit thirsty due to putting a small 4 cylinder engine in a large car.

[Fairlane]

It will pull around 340nm. Maybe a little more if Toyota Australia does extra tuning for the Aus market.

It pulls around 337 in the US Avalon on standard US fuel

[deesun]

Carsguide fuel figure was 9.8 and BF11 should be slightly better. These were real world figures also not asWTF69er.

[Smoked]

Its still FWD and thus myself and alot of other Australians wont buy it.

[Iphido]

10Kw more and .3 L less than a Falcon. Euro IV emissions is nice tho.

Falcon is still within striking distance and its certainly not enough to make large boastful claims. 5% more powerful and 3% more economical than the soon to be superceeded BF.

[Luke Plaizier]

Rest easy. There's no V8.


Lukeyson

[Electric]

Not to mention that under acceleration it will be the least powerfull car in its class.... as the PCM limits power to about 110kw to stop it from being a lane changing torque steering pig.

Like all other powerful FWD cars....

[16wantsI6]

front wheel drive... what idiot decided to invent that? and what idiot decided that the australian public want that??? hello mitsubishi 380, u would think they would learn from mitsu's mistakes

[F6BF]

Will certainly give the oldies something to cheer about......and with 200 kw will be a fast trip to the bowling club :hihi:

[Poetic Justice]

The general australian public that make up a lot of the market that cars are sold in actually don't give a toss about FWD or RWD cars. It's more the fact that you're an ehthusiast and thus you know more about it all.

Majority of the people who walk through a Toyota dealers door wouldn't even have it in their mind. And you know should all know quite well that Toyota's sell, plain and simply.

[Archilino]

slight detour on topic, recently spoke to a toyota executive about trd, said the aurion version will be 250kw turbo, fwd released mid next year. Aimed directly to the xr6 turbo. When i asked him about 250kw at the front wheels he said 'it will blow the xr away' which is to be expected coming from a toyota employee but in reality 250kw in fwd form??

[FPV]

Originally Posted by Archilino

slight detour on topic, recently spoke to a toyota executive about trd, said the aurion version will be 250kw turbo, fwd released mid next year. Aimed directly to the xr6 turbo. When i asked him about 250kw at the front wheels he said 'it will blow the xr away' which is to be expected coming from a toyota employee but in reality 250kw in fwd form??

It can't be turbo, they have already shown the supercharged v6 that will be going into the TRD Aurion.

[Archilino]

hmm good point fpv, just passing on the info

[Poetic Justice]

Toyota executive pre-releasing information?

Highly doubt it.

[uranium_death]

The fact that it was released on the Toyota newsroom and not an independent site means it is biased and unreliable IMO.

Wait until the experts test it, then we'll see how good it really is.

And my guess is that it has ****-poor torque, as all our "friends" will marvel at the word "power" and not realise it means little with low torque.

[Lukeyson]

omg 200kw , thats as good as my AUII XR8, i am going to sell it and buy a Toyota
/sarcasm off

[Bud Bud]

Originally Posted by 16wantsI6

front wheel drive... what idiot decided to invent that?

I must admit that I have always wondered this myself, "considering the World Auto Market Kings" (the Yanks!) had the biggest and baddest RWD cars in the world up to the 1980's, and as NASCAR and Drag Racing are at an all time high, I would of thought that the Yanks would of been the last ones standing. I never thought the masses would let FORD Chrysler and GM do this to their beloved passion for automobiles.

When you think about it I don’t think the big Cusso's and 55-57 Chevs would have had the same impact today as a FWD! Look at today’s Caddy, imagine a 59 Caddy as FWD. No wonder they drive SUV’s, look at the alternatives!

Funny how the high quality Euros have maintained the RWD setup through out the ages. Toyota has recognised this as it was no accident that the (Toyota) Lexus was designed as RWD to compete against them. That said how does Toyota (or anyone else for that matter) still expect to compete against large RWD Aussie cars with their large FWD car then?

[Redrum]

Take one for a drive down to Avalon perhaps............... :evilsasmo

[Perana]

Most people that buy cars DGAF about which wheels it drives so that is not going to be a factor on how it sells.. Looks, Fuel Economy, Safety, Price, Interior gadgets will be what these people look at.

Though 200+kw through front wheels is madness.. The maximum sensible power figure as quoted by many engineers and designers in europe is around 170kw...

As far as who invented it IIRC it was Alvis Cars in 1928.. That car failed misrably though and but first successful FWD was the Citroen Traction-Avant

[Gadgetman]

Jee whiz, Sounds like a good package. The car along with the Best Marketing department in the automotive industry will see this New Toyota Sell for sure. Not looking good i think.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Archilino

slight detour on topic, recently spoke to a toyota executive about trd, said the aurion version will be 250kw turbo, fwd released mid next year. Aimed directly to the xr6 turbo. When i asked him about 250kw at the front wheels he said 'it will blow the xr away' which is to be expected coming from a toyota employee but in reality 250kw in fwd form??

Wouldn't it be a dog to get off the line? I thought RWD, namely the XR6T would be better weighted for more efficient take offs?
Personally, i wouldnt touch it. Hi-Po F-FWD Family Sedans just dont sit right with me.

[XR8-260]

Originally Posted by Perana XR8

Most people that buy cars DGAF about which wheels it drives so that is not going to be a factor on how it sells.. Looks, Fuel Economy, Safety, Price, Interior gadgets will be what these people look at.

Though 200+kw through front wheels is madness.. The maximum sensible power figure as quoted by many engineers and designers in europe is around 170kw...

As far as who invented it IIRC it was Alvis Cars in 1928.. That car failed misrably though and but first successful FWD was the Citroen Traction-Avant

True... the Volvo S80 T6 FWD had 200kw and it torque steers like mad!

[ClevlndStemer]

I will wait until its released and tested before i believe any figures released for fuel. IMO i expect very high 9's to mid 10's. Not bad but average now.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Gadgetman

Jee whiz, Sounds like a good package. The car along with the Best Marketing department in the automotive industry will see this New Toyota Sell for sure. Not looking good i think.

If its anywhere near as good as the dreadful "Avalon Drive" Campaign with Les Patterson then don't worry too much...

[MoreHPformyXR6]

If they are saying best economy & power in class (large family sedan) Aurion BF VE & 380. That is going to put Mitsubishi further behind the eight ball isnt it? Eg least power in class & highest economy. I suppose the only thing Mitsubishi can do is offer a car at a price point well below its opposition which on RRP I belive they do. Not at a price point to make me buy one though.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by 16wantsI6

front wheel drive... what idiot decided to invent that?

If thats a serious statement, I believe that it is mostly used because it is cheaper than a RWD to build. I remember this question comming up in an auto class one day. I spose you could also argue that you get more power to the wheels and then you could counter-argue that with the fact of traction, or lack thereof.